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Uthayakumar is mobbed by his supporters during today’s launch of the latest Indian-based party, Human Rights Party Malaysia. –
Picture by Baradan Kuppusamy
By Baradan Kuppusamy

KLANG, July 19 — P. Uthayakumar today launched his Human Rights Party Malaysia (HRP) before 3,000 cheering hardcore supporters by lambasting Umno for sidelining Indians for 52 years, while also training his guns on Pakatan Rakyat (PR) for winning on Indian votes but failing to help the community.

He said the cavalier attitude of Umno and PR towards Indians was because the community lacked political clout, and he is now offering a unique scheme where marginalised Indians could create this clout as well as pressure for public resources to uplift the community.
Under the scheme, Indians in certain states should re-register as voters in select constituencies where there are about 20 to 30 per cent Indian votes, he said.
“By doing this they would create Indian majority parliamentary and state seats in the country and can, if united, win the seats easily,” he said.
“We will use the clout created by controlling these seats to bargain for the community,” Uthayakumar said.

“We will no longer be political beggars,” he said to a standing ovation from supporters, who arrived from across the country, many of whom wore Hindraf’s saffron-coloured T-shirts. Uthayakumar, who wore a similar T-shirt with his fiancée, was mobbed by his supporters.
Uthayakumar, who is secretary general of the party, announced the names of state leaders at the function and vowed to fight on until the “last drop of my blood.”
“I will not betray you, I will not sell you for some crumbs and I will never give up the struggle,” he said to huge applause.

Elaborating on his scheme, he said DAP veteran Lim Kit Siang and party secretary general Lim Guan Eng were classic examples of politicians who have “migrated” from their hometowns to fight and win and hold office in other states.

“We should be like them. We must create Indian power centres in all states, re-register ourselves in those constituencies and elect our own representatives to parliament,” he said.
“Only in that way can we create clout,” he said, adding that currently Indians were members in numerous political parties. “Our votes are split and we are dismissed as non-entities.”
He said the new party can win 15 parliamentary and 38 states seats if this scheme was implemented successfully.

“This is what we are going to do for the next two years …to get Indians to re-register in selected constituencies to create Indian community power centres,” Uthayakumar said.
Among the areas he identified are Padang Serai in Kedah; Ipoh Barat, Sungei Siput and Bagan Datuk constituencies in Perak and Ulu Selangor; along with Kota Raja and Klang in Selangor.
Uthayakumar spoke for nearly two hours, listing out all the grievances the Indian community suffers from – poverty, neglect, and marginalisation – and laid the blame at the feet of Umno.
“It is Umno that rules the country, it is Umno that decides who gets what and how much, not Barisan Nasional (BN),” he said. “Umno is the enemy but it is a very smart enemy and we have to watch out for it.”

Also present were DAP Teluk Kemang MP M. Manoharan, human rights lawyer N. Surendran and PR supporter David Balla who is the key financier of the new party.
Manoharan said he was there as counsel for Uthayakumar and added he takes the criticism of PR in his stride.
He urged party supporters to beware of Umno, which will work with the Special Branch to sow disorder, confusion and splits within the party.
Uthayakumar also lambasted the DAP for failing to resolve the woes of the villagers of Kampung Buah Pala in Penang.

About 30 Buah Pala residents were also in the audience cheering him on.
“Guan Eng can, with one just signature, settle the Buah Pala issue but he has refused to do so giving all kinds of excuses,” Uthayakumar said. “The reason is we are politically weak.”
He cited as example the sole DAP representative who could bring the PAS-led Kedah PR government to its knees by pulling out of the coalition over an abattoir to slaughter pigs.
“Just one man can do that…imagine 15 or 20 MPs (of our party) walking out. How much we can achieve,” he said.

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...written by jt, July 19, 2009
This is how racism began. First it was the Malays who were being "robbed" in their own country by immigrants. UMNO was created. Now, the Indians are using their "impoverishment" to rally the race against the respective state establishments. I don't believe what Uthaya is doing will uplift the Indian community. I believe he is building a personal clout which will be useful to political parties. Political defection, as has been seen, is lucrative business.

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...written by Observer, July 19, 2009
Oh no... not another MIC in the making.

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...written by JackJax, July 19, 2009
Aiyoyo, yet another Indian-based party? And here is a man who says the Indian vote is fractured. Talk about the ultimate irony.

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...written by G, July 19, 2009
You have a dream but 15 to 20 MP seats ...dont dream..work with Pakatan Rakyat and you will/may get this number of seats........ G Belfast

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...written by citizen, July 19, 2009
Uthayakumar, i think you wrongly calculated. You cannot form a political party without any experiences. Before became famous amang the indians after 25th Nov.2007, can you tell one of the indian comunity issues you settled, like squatter, eviction, unemployement. Dont play pupilist polirtics dan the huge crowd gather on that the not because of you, pls remember thoundands of problem the indian comunity of this country face through out BN regime. Dont be another pandhitan. If you smart , first you avoid to do mistake done by samyvellu. In samy leadership this indian comunity fragile, spilit until today. If you realy realise this, first thing you must do is, call all indian who split like ipf, mic,ppp,makkal sakti, nalla karuppan party,mindraf and others is to meet up, you faild to this At the same time, you talk aabout makkal sakti, you realy know that what is makkal sakthi. if you believe and respect the makkal sakti, another important task you must done if before form the party is, do road show asked peeople opinion about forming new political party.like you did it before the 25th Nov.2007 Another funny thing your today annoucment that, your new party going to centest 15 parliment seats and 38 states seat for next election is, i feel realy you are in wrong direction. dont compare DAP, they are veteran in politics. anoher funny thing is one of two seats is your target is Sungai siput and ipoh barat .this announcement clearly show that you are not matured in politics. Look like you are going to attack opposition and MIC and not UMNO ,MCA seats. Dont dick your own grave, be realistic.people are still with oppsition, any attempt by anybody to destroy the oppostion allies are sure be avoid by the people fo malaysia.

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...written by WAN, July 19, 2009
This is the most ridiculous plan I have heard about Malaysian politics. Yet, it has enough of a certain crazy appeal that I am compelled to wish Human Rights Party Malaysia good luck in all their endeavors. I don't think you guys will succeed but I would surely love to see you guys try

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...written by eklim, July 19, 2009
great man, move all the indians to one state, maybe perlis, n u may become the MB......otherwise u will only be mr opposition n can only collect crumps !! but then u will rule the poorest state without being able to provide for yr indian citizens !! n subsequently, the other races will move to that state to re-take control; what a strategy ..... unless u are able to move india to malaysia !! come on man ........... its all for yr own ego n self interest !!

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...written by Bluemoon, July 19, 2009
This spinning auta who deripved inspiration from Sri Langka's tiger still thinks that this country can be turned into greater india. He must be dreaming or living in the clouds. One may wonder where he got the statistics considering there there is no single seat in which indian constitutes the majority. With dwindling population of ess then 2% and about a dozen political parties which are indian based, Mr. Uthayakumar must be lucky if he gets enough nomination. Forget about contesting because his party would certanily be trounced and lost the deposit. While the whole country is rejuvenating with equality for all, this racist goon, unfortunately is talking about his race, skin and colour. What a pathetic!

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...written by Eskay, July 19, 2009
That's a jolly good idea, Mr. P. Uthayakumar. Better still if you can get all the Indians to live and work in either Perlis or Negeri Sembilan or in both the states. With this mass migration, Indians would be a majority race there and the chances will be very bright for you and other Indian leaders to become the first Indian Menteris Besar in Malaysia. Good luck to you.

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...written by Paul Warren, July 19, 2009
Uthaya, I've said this to Samy and MIC before. Now I say it to you and PAHAM. Sto politically representing Indians. Only in Malaysia the Indian diaspora is politically represented. And look at the shit they are in. Every where else we have the Vjijay Singhs, The Mittals and you even have those heading the Pepsicola Company and several others....They are all not politically represented. Than you for your offer...now jus tleave the Indians alone...You are only hijacking them.

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...written by KB, July 19, 2009
This Uthayakumar is a political novice and making a fool of himself. Ask Indians to re-register to form the majority in certain seats? Come on man, it's the same stupid, simplistic idea like his "one stroke of the pen to solve Kg. Buah Pala issue". You want to register for another constituency, you have to shift there loh...and change your I.C. to update the address on your I.C. He thinks Indians going to uproot themselves for his politival party to serve his political interest? Human rights party indeed! I haven't heard him say one word about Teoh Beng Hock. Maybe Teoh is not Indian so this race blind person cannot see the human abuse on poor Teoh. Making your party multi-racial is academic. Who from other races going to join if you can only see through an Indian lens?

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...written by samson, July 19, 2009
It is sad to note that Uthyakumar is forming another race based party which will cause further divisions among Indians.In which constituency are Indians majority ?An Indian candidate whether BN or PR still needs the support of the Malays and Chinese.This is the reality in this country.Please bear this in mind.The only alternative for the Indians ,who were discriminated by the UMNO bastards is to unite under Pakatan Rakyat ,where our voice will be heard.Pakatan rakyat under DSAI is getting stronger day bya day and UMNO is very worried .Please give PR some time and they cant do any miraculous as the Federal Govt is still under corrupted BN.As a learned lawyer Mr Uthya is in a better position to explain the truth to the Kg.Pala residents of Penang and not to blame DAP.The whole mess was created by the then Gerakan(Bn) under Mr Koh Tsu Koon .Uthyakumar should think logically and rationally taking into consideration the various unique situation of this multiracial country before forming another race based party .Perhaps he has his own personal agenda .

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...written by Rakyat, July 19, 2009
HRP will die off eventually just like PPP.

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...written by Akam, July 20, 2009
Let's the migration to Perlis begin! Yay to Ultrakumar! Not Ultra...Ultakumar. What a rubbish selfish political snake. With one stroke of pen, you can give free lands to all Indians who move to Perlis! maybe you can vote to change the Perlis constitution too.

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...written by OrangRojak, July 20, 2009
How disappointing. I was very excited by the prospect of a 'Human Rights Party', but it's just a fancy name for another MIC, it seems. Just another sad event in Malaysia's political history.

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FHROI DEMANDS REVOCATION OF THE BAN IMPOSED ON 'HINDRAF'.

FEDERATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANISATIONS OF INDIA
8, Todarmal Lane, Bengali Market, New Delhi- 110 001
Phone: 65288241, 23718929 Fax-01123718929

26.10.2008

1) Duli Yang Maha Mulia
Al-Wathiqu Billah Tuanku Mizan Zainal Abidin
Ibni Al-Marhum Sultan Mahmud
Al-Muktafi Billah Shah
Istana Negara
Kuala Lumpur
Malaysia

2) Y.A.B. DATO’
SERI ABDULLAH AHMAD BADAWI
Prime Minister of Malaysia

Subject:- IMPOSITION OF BAN ON “HINDRAF”

Your Highness,
The citizens and Human Rights organisations of India have taken a serious note of the ban
imposed on Hindu Rights Action Force (HINDFAF) by the Government of Malaysia. We are
equally concerned about the detention of five members of HINDRAF. We feel that the sole
reason for the imposition of ban on HINDRAF and the detention of five members of
HINDRAF, was for expressing concerns about the marginalization of ethnic South Asians
within Malaysian society and specifically for organizing rallies.

It is disheartening to know that all the detainees are being treated like criminals, but they
have never been charged much less convicted of a crime. We have been informed that at
least 65 people are being held at Kamunting Detention Centre under the administrative
detention provisions of the ISA. The Internal Security Act allows the police to arrest
individuals they believe have acted, or are "about to" or "likely to" act in a way that would
threaten Malaysian security, "essential services" or "economic life" (Article 73 (1)(b) and the
detainees can be held for up to 60 days for investigation by the police, after which time the
Home Minister can issue a two year detention order under the ISA. The two year detention
can be renewed indefinitely without the detainee ever being charged with a crime or tried in
a court of law.

As such the ISA is contrary to fundamental principles of international law, including the right
to liberty of the person, to freedom from arbitrary arrest, the presumption of innocence, and
the right to fair and open trial in a court of law.
We demand that the Government of Malaysia should start the process to abolish this
draconian legislation. We also demand that the ban imposed on HINDRAF should be revoked
immediately and the five members of HINDRAF should be released without any precondition.

Rajesh Gogna
Convener
(FHROI)

A salute to those who lead the way.

by Thamilan

P.Uthayakumar’s six year old niece P.W. Vwaishhnnavi , sister-in-law K..Nageswari@ Shanti, sister P.Waytha Nayagi, brother P. Taramaraju, Police Watch and Human Rights Committee coordinator S Jayathas , R.Kanan, Poobalan, Rajah Sekhar, Lourdes Mary (Shanti), P. Suntheram , Sivakumar and Balakrishnan were all arrested outside the Prime Ministers office at Putrajaya on 23/10/08 when they went there to deliver a Deepavalli card asking for the release of the Hindraf lawyers detained under the ISA before Deepavalli and to extend a Deepavalli invitation.
They went to the PM’s office as citizens accompanying a little girl to give a letter of appeal but were detained for illegal assembly and later, they were investigated under the Societies Act instead..

They should not have been arrested in the first place, since when do members of the public who submit a document get arrested. Further the remand application was defective from the onset and the entire episode is evident of the flaw in our criminal justice system.
There were no grounds for the arrest and the following detention that took place. UMNO has got so desperate in curtailing Hindraf that they have resorted to stoop so low as to arresting the 6 year old daughter of Hindraf chairman, family and friends for asking the release of their brother P.Uthayakumar currently detained without trial in Kemta prison. UMNO is going for the whole of the Uthaya’s family and Hindraf supporters. UMNO wanted to see them all in a police lock up this Deepavalli. Deepavalli means nothing to the present government. They broke temples last Deepavalli and conducted the UMNO AGM on Deepavalli day without a care for the Indians at heart. After all it is the same police and government that attacked the Indians and pregnant women with water cannons when they gathered peacefully to voice their grievances, so what would they care?

Hindraf cabar buktikan mereka biadap

Posted by St Low
Saturday, 11 October 2008 09:59

Barisan Bertindak Hak-hak Hindu (Hindraf) mencabar menteri dalam negeri dan TV3 menyiarkan rakaman lengkap rumah terbuka Aidilfitri perdana menteri yang menunjukkan penyokong mereka biadap.
Pengerusi Hindraf, P Waythamoorthy juga mengecam Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar, stesen televisyen itu dan Utusan Malaysia berhubung laporan mereka yang mendakwa sedemikian.Beliau, yang juga adik seorang lagi tokoh gerakan tersebut P Uthayakumar yang kini ditahan bawah Akta Keselamatan Dalam Negeri (ISA), mendakwa dua media itu "sengaja mengapi-apikan semangat perkauman" terhadap Hindraf. "Sekiranya benar tohmahan-tohmahan mereka, mengapa mereka tidak berani menayangkan gambar dan klip yang kononnya penyokong Hindraf bersikap biadap dan kurang ajar," katanya. "Sebaliknya kami mempunyai bukti kukuh yang menunjukkan yang perdana menteri, timbalan beliau dan ramai lagi menteri-menteri kabinet yang senyum panjang dan menerima salamam penyokong Hindraf dengan hati terbuka dengan semangat maaf zahir dan batin.

"Waythamoorthy mengakui penyokong Hindraf merayu Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi agar membebaskan lima pemimpin gerakan itu yang kini meringkuk di kem tahanan Kamunting, Taiping sejak Disember lepas."Apakah rayuan ini boleh dianggap mencemar agama Islam? Motif Utusan dan TV3 mengapikan sentimen perkauman dan agama harus dikutuk oleh semua lapisan masyarakat Malaysia," katanya dalam satu kenyataan. Menurutnya, yang kini berada di London, dalam satu perjumpaan Hindraf dengan setiausaha Abdullah seminggu sebelum majlis berkenaan, mereka dimaklumkan bahawa perdana menteri "tiada bantahan" atas kunjungan mereka di Pusat Dagangan Dunia Putra (PWTC). "Seramai lebih 500 orang penyokong Hindraf menghadiri majlis tersebut tetapi kurang daripada 50 penyokong dibenarkan bersalaman dengan perdana menteri. "Kami datang dengan niat ikhlas dengan semangat maaf zahir batin, di samping merayu supaya perdana menteri membebaskan semua tahanan ISA di hari mulia ini," katanya.
- Malaysiakini

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...written by onnetline, October 11, 2008 10:25:25
Home Ministry & TV 3, What say you ??? The rakyat or your tax payers wish to know about the truth !
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...written by Joe, October 11, 2008 11:11:03
Hope they try to BAN Hindraf... that will be liken censoring the internet. As an Indian and looking at the state of the Malaysian Indians in this country, honestly I wont be surprised if there are death threats and even deaths next.
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...written by AUTAR, October 11, 2008 12:02:20
Hoi budak botak dari Johor! Kumpulan tu bukan dari kumpulan pelampau. Mereka hanya mengusulkan sahaja, macam jugak masa budak ingusan Saipul pukimak tu pergi kat putrajaya di pejabat TPM minta sain untuk dapatkan biasiswa. SALAH KE TU?. Kalau salah, bagus jangan jadi menterilah. Nasibbaik bukan keluarga saya yang engkau ambil tindakan macam tu. Andai belaku, saya akan pastikan budak botak ni sentiasa kekal berada di kandang 4X6.
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...written by Lembing Tajam, October 11, 2008 22:27:48
Botak Balbar ni memang biul dan taksub ngan jawatan Home Minesternya.Orang melawat dengan jujur tapi biasalah paria paria UMNO dan menteri2 bodohnya akan memutar belitkan kenyataan.
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...written by Jana, October 12, 2008 11:40:32
If you banning Hindraf is your(UMNO) solution then prepare to face the next level of our playing field
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...written by Rozlan, October 13, 2008 09:11:14
If the HIndraf were rude or unruly They had not been allowed to enter the function in the first place..The cctv had been place allover the corner.They could always refer to recordings..Moreover Paklah's bodyguards for sure wont let the commotions to happen..Arrest will be made if the Hindraf supporters were unruly..But nothing happened..The Hariraya functions go on unscathed till the end.. It seem Paklah lying again...
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...written by riversnail, October 13, 2008 13:34:14
a few times i watched the 8pm news in RTM1 and TV3 and all showed the Hindraf supporters was standing in the queue in an orderly manner.if they were rude and unruly,definately every hour we can watch in the UMNO controlled TV stations and also in all the newspapers.It is very obvious that Pak Lah and his UMNO goons are telling lies to the Rakyat!! hmmmm...i really dont know when the idiots will learn that the Rakyat dont trust their TVs or newspapers anymore.......

Letter- HINDRAF is a broadband.

Re: [malaysiafm] Is banning Hindraf the solution?
Sunday, 12 October, 2008 15:12
From: "saro saro" saro312002@yahoo.com

To: malaysiafm@yahoogroups.co.uk

Any attempt to ban is a grave mistake the govt jokers can ever think, to meet the dooms day.
Its not formed out of protem commitee and rules for approval from ROC.
HINDRAF is SOUL centered. And you know what is the vibration of SOUL.
To know, pls press the button to ban HINDRAF.
Cant the Authorities take note the shit the authorities are undergoing as result of the court cases. The more the justice seen to be done, the more the hidden truth all these years are surfacing.

And not only the tempering of evidence are so freguent but the DPP himselfs admission of the defect of original charges against RPK in court is untold ambarassment.
An ambarassment one has to face it due to some senior authorities bulldozing to nail truth in haste.

Can the BAR COUNCIL standup to see to the safety of ordinary people seeking justice and endup becoming victim of certain hidden agenda of certain unfaithful authorities.
The Justice dept. owe the people an explanation on the waste of public fund in holding trials of imagination.

The LINGAMS drama is enough so much for people to laugh at for the kind of infiltration certain bad elements can make toin the judiciary.
The followup is not over in the LINGAMS case that other untoward truth are surfacing.
The people demand an immediate action and not to be too concern into determining the new PM after March 2009.

Pak Lah could not hold to the amount of loose ends as a result of some negative greedy officials.
He is an honest man and left it in the hands of the people who are responsible for their issue to clear their name or get killed as a result of it.
What ever it is, the countdown starts the day the next PM of Malaysia takes stage.
Thus completing the "RAHMAN" teory.

Whether DSAI is going to be the next PM or not is not the Q.
The change in the choice of the govt. is indeed inevitable. All odds are already against the UMNO lead BN govt.
The key issue is how soon is the changes going to manifest after March 2008.

GOD SAVE OUR KING AND OUR NATION.
OKOT

Hindraf went 'over the limit' - comments from m2day.blog

Hindraf went 'over the limit'

Posted by kasee
Monday, 06 October 2008 10:04

(NST) KAPAR: The MIC cannot condone the sort of behaviour demonstrated by some of the Hindraf members at the Muslim ministers' Hari Raya open house on Wednesday. Party secretary-general Datuk Dr S. Subramaniam said that sort of behaviour did not augur well for a multiracial nation.He said people should learn from and emulate senior members of the opposition parties, who made it a point to attend the open house and take part in the festivities.Hindraf members led by K. Shanti, the wife of Hindraf leader-in-exile P. Waytha-moorthy, went to the open house at the Putra World Trade Centre and presented Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi with a card asking him to release the organisation's leaders detained under the Internal Security Act. The card was delivered by Waythamoorthy's 5-year-old daugher, Vwaishnnavi, who had been invited to the open house by the prime minister.About 20 bloggers also turned up at the open house, wearing T-shirts bearing the slogans "No to ISA" and "Free RPK", referring to Malaysia Today editor Raja Petra Kamaruddin, who is being held for two years under the ISA.Subramaniam was commenting on Pas leader Datuk Seri Abdul Hadi Awang's statement that he viewed Hindraf's actions as part and parcel of democracy and that it signalled a change in democratic practices in the country.He acknowledged that it was the group's democratic right to be at the open house but noted that everything had its limits.In Kemaman, Information Minister Datuk Ahmad Shabery Cheek said it was wrong of Hadi to say that what had happened was part and parcel of democracy."A cabinet open house is for the people to meet the nation's leaders and political ideologies are set aside on that day."When a political agenda takes the driving seat on such an occasion, it dampens the Hari Raya spirit. Democracy should not be abused," he said, after attending Menteri Besar Datuk Ahmad Said's open house in Kijal, here, yesterday.


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...written by Jan, October 06, 2008 10:12:47
Hindraf over the limit? What about jailing people indicriminately without charge, isn't that worse?
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...written by rayfire, October 06, 2008 10:16:55
Please, can someone from Hindraf or others show recorded proof of what exactly went on that day at the open house, the media report and the minister's response makes it seem like they went on rampage that day! I am quite sure they would have behaved quite decent and have presented the card with the request in an acceptable manner! Please do not politicise this issue, and Utusan please don't use this to incite hatred amongst the races! It is good that Hindraf plan to sue Utusan for their degrading comments and headline on second day of raya to cause discomfort! While they are at it, they should sue Syed Hamid Albar as he said "they insulted Islam", he should SHOW proof what they have done wrong! or should be charged for sedition! As for MIC, do it because of concern, not because of publicity, it is likely the latter is the reason for your "sudden" concern. All ISA detainees should be released and I urge Hindraf to represent all intimidated Malaysians instead of focusing only on Indians
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...written by Concerned Malaysian, October 06, 2008 10:19:18
These two pea brain minister are the milestone of rest of the ministers in Malaysia. What political agenda is the $%#@^ information minister is talking about, meeting the PM who claims to be PM of all Malaysian and giving him a card is this poitical. Hoi mangkuk hayun don;t be like your predecessorlah. Subra..subra...water cannoning the Indians,will augur well for multi racial nation. where were you then? don't be an UMNO dog wake up.
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...written by avj, October 06, 2008 10:25:09
You still can't get it it into thick skull,can you Dr Subramniam that MIC does not represent the Indian Malaysian and that MIC is only an extention of BE END trying to to keep political power within themselves.Hindraf has allowed the winds of change in and there is nothing you can do about it.And as for you don't try and be an extention for slimeball Samy,he is politically finished,kaput,over.Wake up lah thamby.
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...written by Liberace, October 06, 2008 10:28:43
Nobody's looking for approval from MIC or UMNO. Neither party is qualified to speak by virtue of their failure to give 2 hoots about the welfare of the Indian community.
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...written by SCM, October 06, 2008 10:35:25
Subra, you guys in MIC really don't get it. The Indians don't want to hear you say anything because whenever MIC says something, it is said to carry UMNO's balls. Samy and the rest of his gang have been thrown out because the Indians want people like Hindraf and not weak money grabbing corrupt leaders who are hypocrites like you and your MIC gang of spineless morons, and that worm Nalla also. Just stop hindering efforts by the Indians to get some rights.
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...written by indianputra, October 06, 2008 10:43:26
With due respects to you Dr. Subra, you have absolutely no right to talk about HINDRAF and what they are doing. When your own MIC members are behaving like gangsters (Remember MAIKA HOLDING AGM?)I would appreciate you taking care of those rougues before you say anything about HINDRAF. MIC is NOT and will NOT represent HINDRAF and any attempt by MIC to discredit HINDRAF is tantamount to treason.
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...written by manny_california_usa, October 06, 2008 10:47:35
To Dr.Subra, Your prime minister don't even have the guts to receive a bouquet of flowers from a little girl at the Parliament and you are talking about bad behaviour by the Hindraf members? To Ahmad Shabery, stop being Mis-Information minister. Datuk Seri Anwar already given you an embarrassing knock-out in the debate, don't let us give you another one.
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...written by cheekhiaw, October 06, 2008 10:52:01
Hey Muttal Indian Congress, At least HINDRAF does not steal in broad daylight... xxx
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...written by dumbfounded, October 06, 2008 11:17:16
When the gov detain people in ISA, we, the people of the nation, demand that the ISA detainees be released and charged in open court
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...written by advocatusdiaboli, October 06, 2008 11:25:29
As it is we Malaysians are a peaceful lot and we will be even better without you MIC,UMNO & MCA and it is your kind of behaviour that does not augur well for a Multiracial Nation. As for Shabery Cheek,just stuff it up your nether regions. Anyway Selamat Hari Raya.
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...written by onnetline, October 06, 2008 12:07:24
Subramaniam, Not everybody is a God like you ..... knows what is totally right or totally wrong ! You should be sitting up in an altar and not talking cock lah !
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...written by RumahPanjai, October 06, 2008 12:11:17
By putting RPK in prison, you morons have already dampened our hari raya spirit! So where is the selamat baboon minister?
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...written by Cinakelate, October 06, 2008 12:19:46
"A cabinet open house is for the people to meet the nation's leaders and political ideologies are set aside on that day. When is asking the realease of prisoner of concience a political ideology? "When a political agenda takes the driving seat on such an occasion, it dampens the Hari Raya spirit. Democracy should not be abused," What is the spirit of Hari Raya? Maaf Zahir dan Batin! Shabiri-biri Shabri-biri!
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...written by The dragonheart, October 06, 2008 12:31:31
I support the Hindraf plight but I disagree of people spoiling other peoples' events... similarly goes to UMNO/BN does that to any of the opposition official or religious functions... I know many people in here disagree with me but I hate to see Malaysian with no respect and no manners... If one would do it just because the other did the same to them..then basically they are both the same breed...
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...written by ZamZamAlaKazam, October 06, 2008 12:42:53
...please be aware of the spin our mainstream media can put on such issue. I see no wrong in trying to convey one's feeling/opinion/etc regardless of the occassion, esp when one was not allowed any avenue to do so, despite repeated request. Justice for all.
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...written by joeawk, October 06, 2008 13:03:03
Giving a letter to the PM asking for the hindraf 5 to be released can cause so much fuss. That is how low people, especiually politicians can get. Subra, if you want to bodek UMNO, that is no way about it. Sabery chik n Hadi awang, it is not even about democracy or the occasion because if it was Sabary Chiks funeral, it is still not wrong or impolite to hand over the letter. Did anyone shout or did anyone make a scene? Not, i believe.
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...written by jhlee, October 06, 2008 13:10:04
why are we wasting time reading and commenting on this article?
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...written by kkselvam, October 06, 2008 13:31:22
We don't need MIC to represent us.No need for raced based party anymore.We have PKR to take care of us, Malaysian! Anyway,enough of your sandiwara.You want to carry "future" PM Najib's ball,carry on lah!! But don't tell us what we can or cannot do! Come next election, you can rest assure to lose your MP seat.You want to bet? Your call!
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...written by Bigjoe99, October 06, 2008 13:42:45
All these descriptions, disrespectful, over the limit, etc... Well, there are descriptions of the use of ISA now - obscene, immoral, sadistic, perverted... Hmmm... not so bad to be disrespectful, over the limit, objectional...
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...written by johntyc, October 06, 2008 13:49:30
Attend open house and take part in the festivities. That's exactly what Hindraf doing. So, what's wrong with that?
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...written by shangrilapeace, October 06, 2008 14:04:57
Desperate calls for justice & help called for desperate actions regardless of when, where and how (peaceful actions). Over the limit are the people responsible for giving instructions for all the poor victims to be directed to the car parks. A card and a teddy bear, by a child (of an ISA detainee) posed so much fear that the PM has to take so much time to decide an ok? Gosh...
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...written by SamSan, October 06, 2008 14:09:41
I agree with Dr. S. Subramaniam. The indians need to leave their faith completely in the hands of MIC and Datuk Sri Samy Velu and then pray and wait for another fifty more years for their pathetic and marginalised plight to be allievated. In that next fifty years, Semi Value gives you all 100% assurance (just like he assured you all when he sold MAIKA shares) that you will all be uplifted). If there is still any complains, you can all apprehend our President if you can find a way of going to the next world where he will be waiting to hear any complainsts
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...written by teo siew chin, October 06, 2008 14:47:16
"...Democracy should not be abused..." ----------------------------------- and to throw innocent people in jail using ISA and let them lanquish in there for god-knows-how long is an ABUSE of what pray tell?
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...written by MalaysianUnited, October 06, 2008 16:52:05
HINDRAF perlu buat perkara yang sama seperti rumah terbuka Deepavalli!!.. Dear K Shanti, Hanya UMNO sahaja ker yang menindas orang India Malaysia?..Apa yang saya tahu ramai juga orang UMNO yang memberi sumbangan bantuan secara peribadi kepada orang2 India yang miskin..K Shanti tak tahu ker?.. Ini adalah satu pandangan yang penuh dengan emosi dan tak praktikal!!..K Shanti perlu cakap perkara yang sebenarnya..siapa yang menindas sebenarnya dan tiada membawa perkembangan yang bagus kepada komuniti India Malaysia??.. Bukankah pemimpin2 India yang berada di dalam kerajaan????..yang selama 50 tahun ini apa yang mereka buat mewakili kaumnya sendiri???.. Masa untuk cari kesalahan pemimpin kaum anda dahulu K Shanti..contohi Dr. Wan Azizah yang lebih lembut dan tidak membuat sebarang kenyataan yang menunjukkan beliau tak tahu apa2 tentang perkembangan politik dan sejarah tanahair.
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...written by Selva, October 06, 2008 17:16:23
Hey Shitass Subramaniam , Go suck Badawi's and BN balls-you were lucky to get in the last last GE, next time around you will even lose your deposit-stay out of matters that do not concern you-we have enough labour problems-look at the estate labourers who have toiled for the nation and what are there earning today-do not forget they pay your salaries too-you are n othing but a casual worker who gets his job by sucking oranges thrown by the UMNO goons
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...written by beijing, October 06, 2008 17:31:47
This is how the massage been delivered to our sleepy PM or else he just covers his head with blanket all the time. And this is how we meet the national leader and “THE PEOPLE” of Malaysia.
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...written by lobster, October 06, 2008 17:51:39
"When a political agenda takes the driving seat on such an occasion, it dampens the Hari Raya spirit. Democracy should not be abused," Shaberi Cheek, shame on you! Tell that to RPK who had to spend his Raya in Kemunting detention center. Talk about abusing democracy... STFU.
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...written by cillipepper, October 06, 2008 18:03:17
MIC podah mutal!
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